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Bof pour le côté esthétique, un peu trop massive pour moi à première vue.
Par contre, j’espère qu’ils vont mettre la dose de luminova pour que ça pète dans le noir !!!!
Jörg a posté ceci sur Watchuseek:
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- It was just a fake with a unfinished case, bezel, crown and so.
I just gave this picture to show the first impression how the watch looks like.
Le topic de Jörg se trouve à cette adresse: http://forums.watchuseek.com/f36/new-stowa-modell-testaf-deleted-thread-official-announcement-j%F6rg-schauer-843476.html
Et La réponse de Jörg sur la ressemblance avec Sinn :
- Jörg Schauer sur WUS a écrit:
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Hello,
case will be 45 mm ! (but it will be Titanium case which is realy lght and very good to wear)
here are a statement to the design of the watch:
Hello,
many thanks for the commenst to the new STOWA Flieger TO1 which will be TESTAF tested. (still this picture here is only a drawing)
About the design:
There are a few rules you have to follow if you want to get the TESTAF certification. You can read all this rules under the TESTAF side in german and english.
This rules “limit” the design of the watch basicly.
But of course design is more than only the first view and the meaning that maybe one watch looks similar than the other
Similar yes, because we all have to use 12 hour lines and 60 minute lines .
Also if you have to use superluminova illuminating markers and hands there are some technical limits and rules you have to follow.
The result is of course that the lines have to be in a minimum size and brightness.But you can see that the STOWA dial and bezel following my own design rules.
Just let me say that i invest more than 60 (sixty) hours to design dial and hands for the new STOWA Flieger TO1
To copy a existing watchdial needs 1-2 hours
I know it is not easy to feel the details of design for everybody in the same way.
But believe me:
I never will copy a design because i have my own way and feeling for my watches and i do my sucesfull and many times awarded design since more than 20 yearsAnd, there are much more processes behind the design of a watch, but this would fill to much space here to explain. (there are books filled with all this things, books with many hundred pages )
For example the double line at 12 o´clock.
This is a typical and always used designpoint so many watches have used.
For better explanations, i have attached a few, only a few old STOWA watches i have and all this uses the double line , some really similar than i use now or Sinn have used, some in a other way.One more point for the designprocess of a new watch is that you make you a catalogue of things the new watch should be for the customer to satiesfied him.
During the designprocess you try to follow this steps and points in your “designcatalogue”
Ok, the TESTAF certifications did a lot of work before, now we have to follow, but all of this is to satiesfied the customer with a better readable watch, in daylight as in nighttime.
(TESTAF really includes a design catalogue you have to follow and 6 people will test this optical features and say: “Yes” or “No”, if the most say No you can start again to make your design TESTAF like)If good designers made a list with features for a new design (and especially for this TESTAF watches) you will see that they sometimes end in a more or less “similar” result.
If this happen and this will happen with the coming TESTAF watches from other companies as well, you need a good eye and feeling to find the difference at the first view.
(of course there will be much more differences as case, crown, size, strap, hands)But you will see them, as well as i and hopefully you also will see the difference between my new STOWA design and maybe some other modells in the market.
Best regards
Jörg Schauer
I like this discussion really because for my feeling the complete watch market (or at least 95%) is to much concentrated on the technicla aspect such like movements and old history models of old companies.
The design, which is one of the most important matter for the decision to buy a watch or not (sometimes i think to much people are blind to see this initial point for every watch purchase!) is not in the focus of the magazines, collectors and customers.But a good and emotional designed watch is what the people buy, it has to be nice and it has to be in customers personal taste. The movement of course is also important, but think about this: Is the first impression of a nice thing not the most important ? What is responsible for the first view? The movement inside? The brandname on the dial? The price of the watch? or maybe the design of the watch ?
I believe and i know from many STOWA customers that they first wants a nice and good looking watch, second they think about “the engine inside” and of course after clearing this point they ask if they can accomplish this piece at this moment.
After they have checked up all this matters of course they want to be sure to be always welcome and a respected customer.
And if there is a service request or after sale matter they want to be recognized as a still also important part of the “deal”.This all is included in the strategic design which is the most important influence for my daily work.
So, to copy something is not in my brain, even not in the last small corner of it , there is no space for things like that.
To be independent in thinking, creating and doing are the most motivating points in my daily life.
I will be back always with pleasure if there are discussions about watchdesign, this is what i really want. To open the eyes of more and more people to “find and feel the difference” between good and sustainable design or a lot of this rubbish which is arround in our world today.
Désolé, c’est en anglais et la traduction de Google est tellement abominable que j’ai pas voulu la poster…
Je suis mitigé …
D’un coté, elle est plutôt très réussie.
De l’autre coté, l’inspiration Sinn me dérange un peu.Où je suis content, c’est qu’avec 45 mm, même en titane, le dilemne ne va pas subsister longtemps …
Un prix de 1290 euros et 200 mètres waterproof.
Les photographies du cadran et le post de Jörg, c’est par ici.
ce ne sera pas pour moi 
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